: FRONT WHEEL BEARINGS



HHUUGE
11-12-2006, 11:08 AM
Took the Boss out for a joy ride today ...just wanted to check things out before I leave friday on the "Auto Train" headed for Sanford Fla. then ride down to Naples...
last month I had the wheels chromed and new bearings installed...I might have about 150-200 miles on it since I got it back from MBH..
well I am glad I went out for a shakedown cruise because the front left wheel bearing took a sh#&.
It sounded like metal being ground in a blender.....had to have a buddy come out with a trailer to pick it up..
We took the wheel off and the bearing is toast...
anyone have a part number for these bearings ???
I have been to 3 auto parts stores..including NAPA, but nobody has a cross reference for the bearing number that was in my bike.
I sure would like to get the right "TIMKEN" bearing number if anyone has it....

thanks
Greg

Adrian
11-12-2006, 11:23 AM
I might have the number but I know Aldo has and will go look.
One thing you want to make sure is that the spacer will allow the wheel to move .004 to.011 after the axle is tight.

Adrian

Zenbiker
11-12-2006, 11:27 AM
Greg...A phone call to any dealer will tell you. Stamford Boss is great that way even if you don't buy from them.
203-359-1556....Joe

HHUUGE
11-12-2006, 11:38 AM
Thanks Joe & Adrian...I was just trying to get it back together today...but being sunday, there is not much chance of that..the parts houses are filled with kids who don't know sh#@%.
If you don't have an application or part number they are totally lost....
I guess this project will have to wait until tommorow....

thanks again
Greg

HANGINON
11-12-2006, 05:40 PM
Front wheel bearings - Timken - LM11949

Front wheel bearing races - Timken - LM11910

SRF
11-12-2006, 05:52 PM
Front wheel bearings - Timken - LM11949

Front wheel bearing races - Timken - LM11910

Jim, those are part numbers for packable wheel bearings aren't they? I believe Greg is looking for sealed wheel bearings.

Shane

HANGINON
11-12-2006, 06:04 PM
Front wheel bearings - Timken - LM11949

Front wheel bearing races - Timken - LM11910

Jim, those are part numbers for packable wheel bearings aren't they? I believe Greg is looking for sealed wheel bearings.

Shane

Oh, sorry. These are not sealed which is why the race is a seperate number.

HHUUGE
11-12-2006, 07:49 PM
Thanks Jim ...but Shane is right..My bearings are sealed...but I appreciate the answer.
I will be giving Roger at MBH a call in the morning...maybe he can overnight me a set or I can get them at Bearing Specialties locally in the morning...

Greg

snatcher
11-12-2006, 08:05 PM
timken LM11910 & LM67010 THINK 1 IS BEARING & OTHER RACE,,

THEY ARE ACTUALLY A "TRAILER" BEARING IN FRONT I GOT MINE THRU FEDERATED AUTO PARTS THER ARE BIG ON EAST COAST THERE # IS AN A2 THEY TOLD ME ABOUT THE TRAILER BEARING THE REARS ARE A-6, AND THE FRONT SEAL IS ACTUALL A H-D "FATBOY" WHEEL SEAL AS I HAD LOCAL H-D DEALER MOUNT NEW TIRE & INSTALL BEARINGS & SEALS

HANGINON
11-12-2006, 08:47 PM
Thanks Jim ...but Shane is right..My bearings are sealed...but I appreciate the answer.
I will be giving Roger at MBH a call in the morning...maybe he can overnight me a set or I can get them at Bearing Specialties locally in the morning...

Greg

Sorry Greg.. did'nt realize it. Hope you get it fixed tho.

HHUUGE
11-13-2006, 04:57 PM
Time to complete the "MYSTERIOUS BEARING SAGA"...I went to the local bearing supplier and he said the BAD bearing was a INA bearing but he could not cross it over...so he called them and they told him it is a proprietary bearing made for good old HARLEY-DAVIDSON...
so off to the H-D dealer I went and found out the bearings fit the softail models and the part number is #9267...
they are installed and speced out to Adrians specs..so all is well...

Once again I appreciate the Input from all of you...keep the part number handy in case you lunch a bearing.

Greg

HossZZ4
04-20-2007, 07:42 PM
greg,

my 2004 350 took harley part #9247 for the 1 inch axle for the front wheel.
The 9267 is for a 3/4 axle.
same price at 29.95 each. Adrian has the bearing x-ref number so we can source it for less.
cheers
aldo

escortbike
04-20-2007, 10:45 PM
Greg,

Roger Hirko is no longer with Mountain Boss Hoss.
Good luck on replacing the bearings!

Bill

Matt Dynes
04-22-2007, 08:02 AM
Greg,

Roger Hirko is no longer with Mountain Boss Hoss.
Good luck on replacing the bearings!

Bill

Bill,
What happened to Roger??? He was a great guy to deal with! Is it just Tom running the show with the mechanics?

Ed the Head
07-07-2007, 08:26 PM
greg,

my 2004 350 took harley part #9247 for the 1 inch axle for the front wheel.
The 9267 is for a 3/4 axle.
same price at 29.95 each. Adrian has the bearing x-ref number so we can source it for less.
cheers
aldo

Aldo....did you ever find a cross reference for the HD part #? I also have an '04 SB and have recently developed a crunchy clicky sound in the front end. Sounds like bearing time. Will have a look-see tomorrow but need to procure parts before I get too far. There is an HD shop up the road, but a more reasonably priced alternative seems in order. Didn't want to have to order them from the factory if they're available locally.

Ed the Head
07-13-2007, 07:24 PM
Jacked her up Sunday and in fact the front left bearing was history. Contrary to some my front end disassembled without a hitch. Went to the bearing shop on Monday and got the lowdown from one of the biggest distributors around. Fella who waited on me has been there for 20+ years and although they carry the Timken line he said that Timken did not make a direct replacement for the bearing I handed him. He said the size was indicative of a foreign manufacture and was surprised that it came off of a machine made in TN. :oops:

He then proceeded to quote me three prices on replacement options. The first two were American made at $54 each and $48 each. The third was the Chinese alternative at $30 each. All would be discounted approximately 20% so I was looking at $43 to $24 each depending on my choice. Only the Chinese alternative was in stock. Why? Because that's what most users buy ( including Boss Hoss :wink: )

Well, I ordered the bearings from Daytona Boss Hoss ( the Chinese ones ) and paid $13.40 each + shipping and tax = $19.00 each. I'd like to do my part to bring down the trade deficit, but in this case Made in America is harder to locate and more expensive. I figure if the first set was good for 17K miles, then at 34K I'll change them again.

On a more technical note ( low tech, but tech nonetheless ) do you suppose if I put those Chinese buggers in the freezer and my aluminum hubs in the oven for a while that I might have a more manageable install? Or do I risk recking something. I figure the freezer isn't any worse than riding in winter up North, and the oven isn't any worse than the heat off the pavement in FL in the summer. Yes?/No?

Adrian
07-13-2007, 08:52 PM
Jacked her up Sunday and in fact the front left bearing was history. Contrary to some my front end disassembled without a hitch. Went to the bearing shop on Monday and got the lowdown from one of the biggest distributors around. Fella who waited on me has been there for 20+ years and although they carry the Timken line he said that Timken did not make a direct replacement for the bearing I handed him. He said the size was indicative of a foreign manufacture and was surprised that it came off of a machine made in TN. :oops:

He then proceeded to quote me three prices on replacement options. The first two were American made at $54 each and $48 each. The third was the Chinese alternative at $30 each. All would be discounted approximately 20% so I was looking at $43 to $24 each depending on my choice. Only the Chinese alternative was in stock. Why? Because that's what most users buy ( including Boss Hoss :wink: )

Well, I ordered the bearings from Daytona Boss Hoss ( the Chinese ones ) and paid $13.40 each + shipping and tax = $19.00 each. I'd like to do my part to bring down the trade deficit, but in this case Made in America is harder to locate and more expensive. I figure if the first set was good for 17K miles, then at 34K I'll change them again.

On a more technical note ( low tech, but tech nonetheless ) do you suppose if I put those Chinese buggers in the freezer and my aluminum hubs in the oven for a while that I might have a more manageable install? Or do I risk recking something. I figure the freezer isn't any worse than riding in winter up North, and the oven isn't any worse than the heat off the pavement in FL in the summer. Yes?/No?


Ed

Just put the bearings in the freezer and that is all you need to do. You can do the oven thing if you want but not necessary.

Adrian

Ed the Head
07-13-2007, 09:59 PM
Jacked her up Sunday and in fact the front left bearing was history. Contrary to some my front end disassembled without a hitch. Went to the bearing shop on Monday and got the lowdown from one of the biggest distributors around. Fella who waited on me has been there for 20+ years and although they carry the Timken line he said that Timken did not make a direct replacement for the bearing I handed him. He said the size was indicative of a foreign manufacture and was surprised that it came off of a machine made in TN. :oops:

He then proceeded to quote me three prices on replacement options. The first two were American made at $54 each and $48 each. The third was the Chinese alternative at $30 each. All would be discounted approximately 20% so I was looking at $43 to $24 each depending on my choice. Only the Chinese alternative was in stock. Why? Because that'swhat most users buy ( including Boss Hoss

Well, I ordered the bearings from Daytona Boss Hoss ( the Chinese ones ) and paid $13.40 each + shipping and tax = $19.00 each. I'd like to do my part to bring down the trade deficit, but in this case Made in America is harder to locate and more expensive. I figure if the first set was good for 17K miles, then at 34K I'll change them again.

On a more technical note ( low tech, but tech nonetheless ) do you suppose if I put those Chinese buggers in the freezer and my aluminum hubs in the oven for a while that I might have a more manageable install? Or do I risk recking something. I figure the freezer isn't any worse than riding in winter up North, and the oven isn't any worse than the heat off the pavement in FL in the summer. Yes?/No?

I lied! Just got around to looking at the new bearings I got from Boss Hoss. They appear to be American made! They are stamped with a WJB which I think is this company in California. Good news for the made in America folks. The old bearings are definitely foreign. See pictures.
http://www.wjbbearings.com/
NEW
http://bigbikeriders.com/photopost/data/500/1238DSC00140A-med.jpg
NEW
http://bigbikeriders.com/photopost/data/500/1238DSC00143A.jpg
OLD
http://bigbikeriders.com/photopost/data/500/1238DSC00147.JPG
OLD
http://bigbikeriders.com/photopost/data/500/1238DSC00149A.jpg
Bearing removal tools :wink:
http://bigbikeriders.com/photopost/data/500/1238DSC00150A.jpg
Just the hub. Bearing out.
http://bigbikeriders.com/photopost/data/500/1238DSC00153A.jpg

HossZZ4
07-18-2007, 09:21 AM
Decided to order from JPCycles.com


Part #201-152 in their catalog, harley OEM part number 9247

http://www.jpcycles.com/productdetail.a ... 20bearings (http://www.jpcycles.com/productdetail.aspx?PID=201-152&cs=Harley&GID=46D2E4EC-FDA9-4C95-8E18-B10336D6CFF4&store=Harley&page=1&search=9247%20wheel%20bearings)

14.99 each before shipping or 29.99 each in the Harley stores. So its worth it to buy it ahead and keep it in your parts drawer before you need it.

Aldo

buyarbi
07-19-2007, 12:53 AM
Aldo
Except in Canada where it will be 14.95 for the part , 14.95 for shipping and 14.95 for the bogus border check.
Bill

Matt Dynes
07-19-2007, 06:45 AM
Bill, I feel your pain. When I ordered my finned BH Concepts tranny pan the shipping.customs cost was the same as the part!!! The true north strong and free......... not so free!!!! So much for free trade agreement!!!
Oh well.... just another excuse for a road trip instead!

buyarbi
07-19-2007, 07:42 PM
Has anyone ordered anything from Canada. I am wondering if the fees are also high going the other way.

HossZZ4
07-21-2007, 11:20 PM
Decided to order from JPCycles.com


Part #201-152 in their catalog, harley OEM part number 9247

http://www.jpcycles.com/productdetail.a ... 20bearings (http://www.jpcycles.com/productdetail.aspx?PID=201-152&cs=Harley&GID=46D2E4EC-FDA9-4C95-8E18-B10336D6CFF4&store=Harley&page=1&search=9247%20wheel%20bearings)

14.99 each before shipping or 29.99 each in the Harley stores. So its worth it to buy it ahead and keep it in your parts drawer before you need it.

Aldo

Ordered Wednesday...at my front door Saturday...with regular ground....good job JPcycles!

Aldo

SRF
09-07-2007, 08:56 PM
Decided to order from JPCycles.com


Part #201-152 in their catalog, harley OEM part number 9247

http://www.jpcycles.com/productdetail.a ... 20bearings (http://www.jpcycles.com/productdetail.aspx?PID=201-152&cs=Harley&GID=46D2E4EC-FDA9-4C95-8E18-B10336D6CFF4&store=Harley&page=1&search=9247%20wheel%20bearings)

14.99 each before shipping or 29.99 each in the Harley stores. So its worth it to buy it ahead and keep it in your parts drawer before you need it.

Aldo

Ordered Wednesday...at my front door Saturday...with regular ground....good job JPcycles!



Aldo

Aldo, have you used these bearings yet or compared them to stock bearings. I need bearings ASAP and plan to go to the Harley dealer tomorrow morning just want to make sure I have the right application to look for when I get there.

Shane

SRF
09-08-2007, 11:46 PM
Aldo, I can't even tell you how happy I am that you posted these part numbers. I was going to rebalance my front tire last night to get rid of a vibration at 35mph. When I raised the front end and spun the wheel it sounded like the tire was rubbing on the fender but it couldn't be that simple. I almost thought I was going to have to spend the day riding my Harley to multiple events. Instead since you posted these part numbers I only had to ride my Harley to the Harley Dealer for parts. I didn't eat or drink a thing until 5pm today because it didn't fit into my schedule. I missed the events going on at the Harley dealer, but made to to 2 others and have some pictures of 2 Boss Hosses that I saw today that I will post sometime tomorrow.

Shane

HAWK88
09-09-2007, 09:18 AM
Has anyone ordered anything from Canada. I am wondering if the fees are also high going the other way.

Bill;

3 or 4 years ago, I ordered one Of Barry's Super Overflow Cannisters (Spit Tank).

I don't recall Any additional Fees, and didn't hear about any (if there had been a Nickle difference, She would have pointed it out).

HossZZ4
09-09-2007, 10:02 AM
Aldo, I can't even tell you how happy I am that you posted these part numbers. I was going to rebalance my front tire last night to get rid of a vibration at 35mph. When I raised the front end and spun the wheel it sounded like the tire was rubbing on the fender but it couldn't be that simple. I almost thought I was going to have to spend the day riding my Harley to multiple events. Instead since you posted these part numbers I only had to ride my Harley to the Harley Dealer for parts. I didn't eat or drink a thing until 5pm today because it didn't fit into my schedule. I missed the events going on at the Harley dealer, but made to to 2 others and have some pictures of 2 Boss Hosses that I saw today that I will post sometime tomorrow.

Shane
Glad to help...Shane...wouldnt it be nice if we could find more stuff so easily while on the road...

Cheers
Aldo

barbarianthemadserb
09-09-2007, 01:25 PM
Will those front sealed bearings (201-152) also go into the front of my year 00 zz4?
Milos 8)

Zenbiker
09-09-2007, 02:33 PM
A litle confused here. Is the front wheel bearing # from Harley for the 3/4" axle 9267? What about the rear bearings?

SRF
09-09-2007, 06:09 PM
A litle confused here. Is the front wheel bearing # from Harley for the 3/4" axle 9267? What about the rear bearings?

Joe, I think the 9267 will also be a sealed bearing, I am assuming this is the number of the second bearing the parts guy brought out to me yesterday. Your packable bearing are also available from Harley and I think somwhere the part number has been posted. Harold had his replaced with his tire on our Dragon trip at a Harley dealer and they had no problem finding the right ones. His bike is a 2001, I am not sure what year the axle sizes changed. Rear bearings should be available from NAPA.

Shane

HogV8
09-10-2007, 07:18 AM
It seems to be that the newer bikes with the sealed bearings are the one's that have had the axle seized problems . Do the sealed bearing hubs also have a axle seal like we have on our packable set up ? I don't think Ive heard of a axle seized with the packable bearings .

jack

SRF
09-10-2007, 07:24 PM
It seems to be that the newer bikes with the sealed bearings are the one's that have had the axle seized problems . Do the sealed bearing hubs also have a axle seal like we have on our packable set up ? I don't think Ive heard of a axle seized with the packable bearings .

jack

No seals on the axles, but I guess the axle, spacers, and wheel bearings all being torqued together if machined straight all seal together, maybe :roll:

Shane

V8GRUMPY
09-11-2007, 10:21 AM
Jack,

On the newer bikes the fronts are sealed, the rears are still bearing & race set-ups. The rears on the '03 and up are NTN 2582 for the bearing...not sure what the outer race number is.

Re the front axle siezing, mine was siezed to the spacer/collar, not the bearing.

HossZZ4
09-11-2007, 12:05 PM
It seems to be that the newer bikes with the sealed bearings are the one's that have had the axle seized problems . Do the sealed bearing hubs also have a axle seal like we have on our packable set up ? I don't think Ive heard of a axle seized with the packable bearings .

jack
2004 has both front and rear sealed bearings. Factory says to put anti-seize on the axle, some disagree and just use axle grease or something else. On mine, water seems to accumulate behind the bearing and the hub and sits there and causes corrosion. Some have run into case where the threads at the end of the axle seized into the fork housing...thats where anti-seize would help.

Aldo

HogV8
09-11-2007, 03:35 PM
It seems to be that the newer bikes with the sealed bearings are the one's that have had the axle seized problems . Do the sealed bearing hubs also have a axle seal like we have on our packable set up ? I don't think Ive heard of a axle seized with the packable bearings .

jack
2004 has both front and rear sealed bearings. Factory says to put anti-seize on the axle, some disagree and just use axle grease or something else. On mine, water seems to accumulate behind the bearing and the hub and sits there and causes corrosion. Some have run into case where the threads at the end of the axle seized into the fork housing...thats where anti-seize would help.

Aldo

Thats my point . with no axle seal water gets in there and as Neil Young says , " Rust Never Sleeps "

Jack

SRF
05-31-2008, 10:39 AM
Bumping this thread so the part numbers can be found when searching for bearing.

Shane

fastphil
05-31-2008, 11:52 AM
It seems to be that the newer bikes with the sealed bearings are the one's that have had the axle seized problems . Do the sealed bearing hubs also have a axle seal like we have on our packable set up ? I don't think Ive heard of a axle seized with the packable bearings .

jack
2004 has both front and rear sealed bearings. Factory says to put anti-seize on the axle, some disagree and just use axle grease or something else. On mine, water seems to accumulate behind the bearing and the hub and sits there and causes corrosion. Some have run into case where the threads at the end of the axle seized into the fork housing...thats where anti-seize would help.

Aldo

Are the rear bearing for the 2005 sb the same as the front?

Adrian
06-02-2008, 05:59 PM
It seems to be that the newer bikes with the sealed bearings are the one's that have had the axle seized problems . Do the sealed bearing hubs also have a axle seal like we have on our packable set up ? I don't think Ive heard of a axle seized with the packable bearings .

jack
2004 has both front and rear sealed bearings. Factory says to put anti-seize on the axle, some disagree and just use axle grease or something else. On mine, water seems to accumulate behind the bearing and the hub and sits there and causes corrosion. Some have run into case where the threads at the end of the axle seized into the fork housing...thats where anti-seize would help.

Aldo

Are the rear bearing for the 2005 sb the same as the front?

They are sealed but much larger.
I use anti seize and seems to work

Adrian

Giancarlo Cuciz
06-02-2008, 07:46 PM
Has anyone ordered anything from Canada. I am wondering if the fees are also high going the other way.


I bought my Boss Hoss fairing from Canada. I was told it cost $900.00 but because their dollar was stronger then ours I had to send him $950.00 ( used fairing ) and the shipping costs were very high also.

Long story, but It cost me way to much but I am happy with the fairing which is now painted to match and on my 2004 Boss Hoss Corvette trike.

Ciao
Giancarlo
Ride Smart

Clint44
06-04-2008, 01:25 PM
Decided to order from JPCycles.com
Part #201-152 in their catalog, harley OEM part number 9247
http://www.jpcycles.com/productdetail.a ... 20bearings (http://www.jpcycles.com/productdetail.aspx?PID=201-152&cs=Harley&GID=46D2E4EC-FDA9-4C95-8E18-B10336D6CFF4&store=Harley&page=1&search=9247%20wheel%20bearings)
14.99 each before shipping or 29.99 each in the Harley stores. So its worth it to buy it ahead and keep it in your parts drawer before you need it.
Aldo

Will these fit the front of our 2006?